Internet Options – Update as of 1-23-2020
Ken Vander Schaaf (Ken.VanderSchaaf@gmail.com)
Internet Satellite Providers:
- Viasat (formerly Exede) – is currently providing satellite service from their new satellite but now with speeds up to 12 Mbps download speeds and 25 Mbps with various data limits per month. Latency time or ping rate averages about 500-700 ms. This offering may change again but the price for the high speed Silver Plan has been increased. Recommend to contact Stephanie Smith at Carolina Connections [336-585-1314], an authorized retailer for both Viasat and HughesNet, for the latest offerings and recommendations from Viasat or Hughes. Note: Although they represent both Viasat and Hughes, she currently recommends HughesNet, but that can change with Viasat’s currently available offerings. Can also go to Viasat’s webpage: [http://www.viasat.com/internet].
- HughesNet – is offering 25 Mbps download speeds with various data limits per month. Latency time or ping rate averages 500-700 ms. They provide similar service to Viasat, but their offerings have remained more constant over the last year. Recommend to contact Stephanie Smith at Carolina Connections [336-585-1314], an authorized retailer for both Viasat and HughesNet. Can also go to HughesNet’s webpage: [https://www.hughesnet.com].
Internet via Cell Phone Towers by Third Party Aggregators:
- Infinite Internet (formerly 4G Antenna Shop), https://4gantennashop.com/ , is an Internet service provider that for our area uses AT&T cellphone towers to provide service to its receivers. They are offering residential service to new customers through this new company name. I confirmed with them that those who currently have 4G Antenna Shop service will still be grandfathered in and can continue using their service.
- Cyberonic Rural Internet, https://cyberonic.com/, is an internet service provider for our area that uses AT&T cellphone towers to provide service to its receivers via an outside antenna. They currently offer an unlimited data plan with speeds confirmed by Springs residents to be 8-15 mpbs upload (sometimes temporarily as slow as 1.5 mpbs), 1.5-6.5 download, and latency (ping) of about 70 ms. Cell tower activity levels can impact the download and upload speeds. This provider does not require a long term contract (after three months) and provides a 10 day trial period to verify your particular signal strength which will be depend on the distance and topography between you and the active cell tower.
Also looking for alternative internet service providers that also uses cell phone towers as their method of transmission; I have located three companies that indicate that they may provide service via cell phone tower providers to our geographic area:
- Yellow Jacket Broadband (http://yellowjacketbroadband.com)
- Evdo Depot USA (https://www.evdodepotusa.com)
- Unlimitedville (https://unlimitedville.com)
Obviously I have not had any experience with any of these three providers but wanted to provide you at least three additional options to explore if you are looking for internet service. None of these require you to commit to a multiyear agreement as required by satellite providers (HughesNet or Viasat). Prices and cell phone service providers used vary, so having a strong signal to the cell phone provider will be essential to getting good service from any of the above providers. Latency times are faster than from satellite providers.
Internet via Cell Phone Towers by Direct Carriers:
- Verizon – Verizon Jetpack Mi-Fi 8800L [com] is a relatively new hotspot offered by Verizon to provide Internet WiFi service to multiple devices via Verizon’s cell tower service. Several residents are currently using Verizon hotspots for supplemental or exclusive Internet service. Signal strength from Verizon’s cell towers will impact the speed of service. The latency speeds should be about 80 ms, much better than obtained from satellite service providers due to their much shorter distance to the Internet signal. Those residents using both hotspots and satellite providers find satellite service better for streaming and hotspots better for browsing the Internet or VOIP phone service.
Internet via Landline Phone Carrier:
- Windstream – They are apparently no longer offering internet service to new customers in The Springs. Existing customers are still be grandfathered in and can continue using their service. Service levels have been reported to be quite slow and limited by those who still use this provider.
Future Potential Internet Provider for The Springs, but not yet:
- Open Broadband LLC [net] is in discussions with the Board trying to provide The Springs with high-speed Internet service. This option may be viable for The Springs in the future, as Open Broadband LLC has conducted a site survey of The Springs current abandoned internet wires. There are still several technical questions that Open Broadband needs to address before they can provide the Board with any solid proposals for consideration. They have hired a Project Manager to evaluate “The Springs Project.”
Internet Options – Update as of 10-2-2019
Ken Vander Schaaf (Ken.VanderSchaaf@gmail.com)
Internet Satellite Providers:
- Viasat (formerly Exede) – is currently providing satellite service from their new satellite but now with speeds up to 12 Mbps download speeds and 25 Mbps with various data limits per month. Latency time or ping rate averages about 500-700 ms. This offering may change again, but the price for the high speed Silver Plan has been increased. Recommend to contact Stephanie Smith at Carolina Connections [336-585-1314], an authorized retailer for both Viasat and HughesNet, for the latest offerings and recommendations from Viasat or Hughes. Note: Although they represent both Viasat and Hughes, she currently recommends HughesNet, but that can change with Viasat’s currently available offerings. Can also go to Viasat’s webpage: [http://www.viasat.com/internet].
- HughesNet – is offering 25 Mbps download speeds with various data limits per month. Latency time or ping rate averages 500-700 ms. They provide similar service to Viasat, but their offerings have remained more constant over the last year. Recommend to contact Stephanie Smith at Carolina Connections [336-585-1314], an authorized retailer for both Viasat and HughesNet. Can also go to HughesNet’s webpage: [https://www.hughesnet.com].
Internet via Cell Phone Towers by Third Party Aggregators:
- 4G Antenna Shop [4gantennashop.com] is an Internet service provider that for our area uses AT&T cellphone towers to provide service to its receivers. They are no longer offering residential service to new customers. They have transitioned their service model to business customers only. I confirmed with them that those who currently have 4G Antenna Shop service will still be grandfathered in and can continue using their service.
Looking for an alternative internet service provider that also uses cell phone towers as their method of transmission: I have located three companies that indicate that they may provide service via cell phone tower providers to our geographic area:
- Yellow Jacket Broadband (http://yellowjacketbroadband.com)
- Evdo Depot USA (https://www.evdodepotusa.com)
- Unlimitedville (https://unlimitedville.com)
Obviously, I have not had any experience with any of these providers but wanted to provide you at least three different options to explore if you are looking for internet service. None of these require you to commit to a multiyear agreement as required by satellite providers (HughesNet or Viasat). Prices and cell phone service providers used vary, so having a strong signal to the cell phone provider will be essential to getting good service from any of the above providers. Latency times are faster than from satellite providers.
Internet via Cell Phone Towers by Direct Carriers:
- Verizon – Verizon Jetpack Mi-Fi 8800L [com] is a relatively new hotspot offered by Verizon to provide Internet WiFi service to multiple devices via Verizon’s cell tower service. Several residents are currently using Verizon hotspots for supplemental or exclusive Internet service. Signal strength from Verizon’s cell towers will impact the speed of service. The latency speeds should be about 80 ms, much better than obtained from satellite service providers due to their much shorter distance to the Internet signal. Those residents using both hotspots and satellite providers find satellite service better for streaming and hotspots better for browsing the Internet or VOIP phone service.
Internet via Landline Phone Carrier:
- Windstream – They are apparently no longer offering internet service to new customers in The Springs. Existing customers are still be grandfathered in and can continue using their service. Service levels have been reported to be quite slow and limited by those who still use this provider.
Future Potential Internet Provider for The Springs, but not yet:
- Open Broadband LLC [net] is in discussions with the Board trying to provide The Springs with high-speed Internet service. This option may be viable for The Springs in the future, as Open Broadband LLC has conducted a site survey of The Springs current abandoned internet wires. There are still several technical questions that Open Broadband needs to address before they can provide the Board with any solid proposals for consideration. They have hired a Project Manager to evaluate “The Springs Project.”
Internet Options – Update as of 10-2-2019
Ken Vander Schaaf (Ken.VanderSchaaf@gmail.com)
I have just learned that one of the options I have suggested in the past, “4G Antenna Shop”, is no longer offering residential service to new customers. They have transitioned their service model to business customers only. I confirmed with them that those who currently have 4G Antenna Shop service will still be grandfathered in and can continue using their service.
Looking for an alternative internet service provider that also uses cell phone towers as their method of transmission, I have located three companies that indicate that they may provide service to our geographic area:
Yellow Jacket Broadband (http://yellowjacketbroadband.com)
Evdo Depot USA (https://www.evdodepotusa.com)
Unlimitedville (https://unlimitedville.com)
Obviously I have not had any experience with any of these providers but wanted to provide you at least three different options to explore if you are looking for internet service. None of these require you to commit to a multiyear agreement as satellite providers (HughesNet or Viasat) require. Prices and cell phone providers used vary, so having a strong signal to the cell phone service provider will be essential to getting good service from any of the above providers.
I have not heard any updates from Open Broadband LLC, so I don’t know where they currently are in their efforts to propose internet service to The Springs.
Ken Vander Schaaf
Internet Options at The Springs Updated and Posted June 10, 2019
Ken Vander Schaaf (Ken.VanderSchaaf@gmail.com)
- Viasat (formerly Exede) – is currently providing satellite service from their new satellite but now with speeds up to only 12 Mbps download speeds with various data limits per month. Latency time or ping rate averages about 500-700 ms. This offering may change again, but that is the highest speed offered today. [THIS IS A MAJOR SPEED REDUCTION FROM 25 MBPS IN THEIR PAST OFFERING SPEEDS AS VIASAT IS APPARENTLY TRYING TO LIMIT NEW CUSTOMERS TO MAINTAIN SPEED FOR EXISTING CUSTOMERS.] Recommend to contact Stephanie Smith at Carolina Connections [336-585-1314], an authorized retailer for both Viasat and HughesNet, for the latest offerings and recommendations from Viasat or Hughes. Note: Although they represent both Viasat and Hughes, she currently recommends HughesNet, but that can change with Viasat’s currently available offerings. Can also go to Viasat’s webpage: [http://www.viasat.com/internet].
- HughesNet – is offering 25 Mbps download speeds with various data limits per month. Latency time or ping rate averages 500-700 ms. They provide similar service to Viasat, but their offerings have remained more constant over the last year. Recommend to contact Stephanie Smith at Carolina Connections [336-585-1314], an authorized retailer for both Viasat and HughesNet. Can also go to HughesNet’s webpage: [https://www.hughesnet.com].
- 4G Antenna Shop [com] is an Internet service provider that for our area uses AT&T cellphone towers to provide service to its receivers. They offer “Infinite High Speed” brand Internet service. They guarantee speeds of 12-35 Mbps download for the allotted data plans with 5 Mbps after that. They also have a truly unlimited plan with the above guaranteed speeds. Their advertised latency time or ping rate averages 80 ms. Will need to purchase their modem and potentially an outdoor antenna to maximize signal strength. They do not require a 2- year contract period.
- Verizon Jetpack Mi-Fi 8800L [com] is a relatively new hotspot offered by Verizon to provide Internet WiFi service to multiple devices via Verizon’s cell tower service. Several residents are currently using Verizon hotspots for supplemental or exclusive Internet service. Signal strength from Verizon’s cell towers will impact the speed of service. The latency speeds should be about 80 ms, much better than obtained from satellite service providers due to their much shorter distance to the Internet signal. Those residents using both hotspots and satellite providers find satellite service better for streaming and hotspots better for browsing the Internet or VOIP phone service.
- Open Broadband LLC [net] is in discussions with the Board trying to provide The Springs with high-speed Internet service. This option may be viable for The Springs in the future, as Open Broadband LLC has been conducting a site survey and is now suggesting using radio frequency transmitters rather than their earlier suggestion of a mesh network. There are still several technical questions that Open Broadband needs to address before they can provide the Board with any solid proposals for consideration. They are hiring a Project Manager to evaluate “The Springs Project” currently.
Internet Option Update:
Wanted to share some updates on what is happening with the search for internet providers for The Springs.
- ViaSat – is now providing satellite service from their new satellite with speeds up to 35 Mbps download speeds with various data limits per month. At least one resident in The Springs is connected to this latest service from ViaSat. Recommend to contact Stephanie Smith at Carolina Connections [866-360-1270], an authorized retailer for ViaSat, for the latest offerings from ViaSat or Hughes. Note: Although they represent both ViaSat and Hughes, she currently recommends ViaSat and has different (I think better) options that can be found at ViaSat’s website [http://www.viasat.com/internet].
- 4G Antenna Shop [4gantennashop.com] is a newly identified internet service provider who use AT&T cellphone towers to provide service to its receivers. If you have a good signal from AT&T this may be an option to look at as well. They claim speeds up to 35 Mbps, but a resident in The Springs who uses it says his experience is much less that this advertised speed, so signal strength to AT&T must play a major role in its success.
- Verizon Jetpack Mi-Fi 8800L [Verizonwireless.com] is a relatively new hotspot offered by Verizon to provide internet WiFi service to multiple devices via Verizon’s cell tower service. Several residents are currently using Verizon hotspots for supplemental or exclusive internet service. Signal strength from Verizon’s cell towers will impact the speed of service, similar to 4G Antenna Shop’s AT&T service. The latency speeds should be much better than obtained from satellite service providers due to their much shorter distance to the internet signal. Those residents using both hotspots and satellite providers find satellite service better for streaming and hotspots better for browsing the internet or VOIP phone service.
- Open Broadband LLC [openbb.net] is in discussions with the Board trying to provide The Springs with internet service. This option may be viable for The Springs in the future, as Open Broadband LLC has been conducting a site survey and is now suggesting using radio frequency transmitters rather than their earlier suggestion of a mesh network. There are still several technical questions that Open Broadband needs to address before they can provide the Board with any solid proposals for consideration.
Update: New Viasat-2 High-Speed Internet Option Currently Available
Ken Vander Schaaf Posted in Off the Cuff on October 10, 2018
I have just received word from Stephanie Smith at Carolina Connections (formerly Country Cable) that Viasat is now finally offering high-speed internet service from their Viasat-2 satellite. For the first time, they are allowing the Springs to get a signal from their “small beam” which provides download speeds up to 30 Mbps and larger data packages before being de-prioritized.
When I tried to research directly from Viasat’s website, it showed that due to high demand no service was available at all from Viasat for area code 27239, but Stephanie confirmed that addresses in The Springs can indeed be installed by her company. If interested I suggest calling Stephanie Smith at Carolina Connections at 336-585-1314 to get the latest details.
Update: Excede’s New Satellite Still Not Operational
Ken Vander Schaaf November 6, 2017
Just want to give those looking at satellite internet options an update on the status of Exede’s new satellite, Viasat-2. This satellite is still approaching its geostationary orbit and is therefore not yet operational. What is confusing is Exede is now offering some unlimited data plans, but they are still utilizing Viasat-1, their current satellite, not service from the new higher capacity satellite.
My recommendation to those who have not committed is to wait until early next year. That way you will probably receive the greatest enrollment options and install the right equipment to take advantage of this new satellite. For those who currently use Exede please be patient as you wait for their capacity to improve with the new satellite becoming operational.
The following report was prepared by Ken Vander Schaaf and presented to the HOA Board at its last meeting.
Review of Internet Options for The Springs at High Rock
As of April 13, 2017
Below are the findings of the potential options for internet providers willing to service the residents of The Springs at High Rock. As the technology continues to develop the options may change as well over time, but these findings are based on current knowledge. In the following summary, abbreviations are:
- MB: one million bytes, or roughly 8 million on-or-off signals. A high-quality digital picture is about 0.3 to 3 megabytes.
- GB: one billion bytes
- MS: millisecond (1000th of a second)
- Ping, or latency: measures the time for a signal to travel to its source and back; it is especially important in satellite transmissions
- 4G: fourth-generation cellular telephone system
Windstream
Windstream will provide internet service via DSL to some Springs residents. However they are not willing to expand their service to the entire neighborhood. Furthermore, their website indicates, and Customer Service has confirmed, that new service is not available for addresses on Healing Springs and Rocky Cove. Reported speeds for those currently serviced by Windstream are varied, depending on the amount of demand on the system. Typical speeds reported locally are 1-3 MB/s download, .7-1 MB/s upload and 20-116 MS for ping. A key advantage of Windstream is that they do not have a data cap on the amount of downloads provided per month. Reports of residents being unhappy with Windstream service are prevalent.
Windstream may be a viable service option for current customers, but is not an option available for all residents.
Verizon Wireless
Verizon Wireless recently introduced an Unlimited Data Plan to its 4G cell phone service. The unlimited data actually is for 22 GB/month at 4G speeds for cell phone data applications and then is throttled back to 3G speeds for the remainder of the month. It also provides an additional 10BG/month at 4G speeds for the cellphone’s hotspot connection to be used for other connected devices. The internet speeds are dictated by local cell tower activity level with slower responses during periods of high local cell tower activity. Local users of this service have experienced speeds of 7-9 MB/sec download, 4-10 MB/sec upload and .04-.08 MS latency speeds. Residents who have a strong Verizon Wireless signal appear to be satisfied with this service. With the “Unlimited” plan, their primary data limit concern may be mitigated.
Verizon Wireless appears to be a viable option for those residents with strong Verizon Wireless signal.
Hughesnet (Gen 5)
Hughesnet has launched a new satellite, the Echostar 19, on December 18, 2016. In March, Hughesnet started offering its “Gen5” service with service plans claiming 25 MB/sec download, 3 MB/sec upload and 500MS latency speeds. They offer differing data limits per month ranging from 10GB to 50GB. I am unaware of any local residents currently using this new HughesNet Gen5 service, so have no actual speed results. To have access to Hughesnet service there must be a clear line of sight to the satellite on the southern horizon.
Hughesnet Gen5 may be a viable option for residents who have a straight line of sight to the southern horizon.
Exede
Exede currently is offering 12 MB/sec download, 3 MB/sec upload, and 700 MS latency speeds with data limits of 12, 25 and 50 GB/month. They are currently experiencing technical issues with their ViaSat-1 satellite that services this area, resulting in much slower than advertised speeds. To have access to Exede service there must be a clear line of sight to the satellite on the southern horizon, similar to satellite TV service. Exede has a new satellite, ViaSat-2, at Ariane’s launch complex in French Guiana, originally scheduled to launch April 25, 2017, but now likely to launch in June. This new satellite should provide much improved capacity and speeds will again be offered at up to 25 MB/sec downloads and up to 150 GB data limits. Due to the recent launch delay, Exede no longer is offering this Freedom 150 plan.
Exede may be a viable option for residents who have a straight line of sight to the southern horizon, but it may be prudent to wait until their satellite capacity increases.
Time Warner (Spectrum)
Time Warner, now branded Spectrum, was contacted to determine if they were willing to provide internet service. After providing them the addresses of every home built in The Springs and several months of no responses they finally did indicate that they would be willing to provide service. Their preliminary proposal stated the construction required to connect one site in The Springs would include 25ft of new aerial, 6,065ft of fiber overlash and 375ft of fiber underground. However, their “Customer Contribution” would need to be $848,930.92. Even shared among all 99 residents in The Springs, the cost seems prohibitive.
Time Warner (Spectrum) does not appear to be a viable option for The Springs.
Open Broadband LLC
Open Broadband’s approach to providing internet service was to connect The Springs and Salisbury’s fiber optic internet service via a microwave antenna located on the Fire Tower. A second microwave connection would be installed in the boat parking area. From there the internet signal would be transmitted via a mesh network to the houses on the lower level of The Springs. For homes on the upper level the internet signal would be transmitted via another mesh network directly from the Fire Tower. Originally Open Broadband was planning to attach the mesh network to the existing street lights. It was then learned that Energy United owned the street lights and EU would not allow any network devices to be attached to the street lights. After that Open Broadband appears to have dropped any interest in the project.
Open Broadband LLC does not appear to be a viable option for The Springs.
